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Jul 12th, 2005, 2:24am
 
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The chemicals we use for our applications to solve complex industrial cleaning problems (using environmental friendly aqueous based advanced chemical products and processes to remove organic and inorganic industrial contaminants from surfaces and substrates) have a high COD/BOD. Since regulations in the Middle East are becoming more stringent, we are looking for a suitable treatment for our waste water. The waste water is mainly water, containing 10-20% of carboxylic acids, COD values are up to 50,000 ppm. Since there are no suitable treatment plants, we are looking for a way to treat our waste water on site. We are thinking now to treat the waste by simply injecting oxygen to reduce both COD and BOD level. This could however take a long time.

Your opinion on which techniques might be available to treat this kind of waste water?

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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2005, 2:34am
 
You will need to provide more information your wastewater e.g. volume and what else you suspect is in it e.g. fats/greases, metals, etc.

As for bubbling in oxygen, this is a non starter as if you want to treat/degrade the BOD/COD biologically you will need to inocculate the mixture with biomass and then provide a suitable clarifier to remove the biomass from the wastewater. The above is simplistic as you will need balance tank, blowers, RAS pumps, control systems, sludge storage tanks, etc, etc.

A feasibility study to determine both aerobic/anaerobic technologies, carried out by a local consultant should guide you through the process of avoiding mistakes!  Wastewater treatment is an expensive business.
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Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2005, 4:27am
 
Many thanks for your reply.

Our waste water is stored in 1,000L drums. It contains very low amount of heavy metals and oil & grease.
I know oxygen bubbling is quite a simple way of ''problem solving'' but there are no treatment facilities in the Middle East (yet).

What is your opinion on ozone treatment or hydrogen peroxide?
It is difficult to think in a way of biological treatment here since facilities are very limited. We realize that waste water treatment is a complex problem, but we are looking for a a solution applicable here....
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Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2005, 1:08pm
 
Woefie:

On the presumption that your wastewater carboxylic residues are readily oxidizable, which you imply in your initial post and which is generally supported by your company's web site, there is an electrolytic-catalytic process that has reasonable CAPEX and very low OPEX costs that should provide the cleanup you require.

If this is of interest to you, please contact ECP International, LLC at water@infoecp.com for a means by which this process can be performance demonstrated.

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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2005, 5:45pm
 
I believe that the oxidation processes that you have proposed will fail to provide oxidation of the organics in your wastes. If you are unwilling or unable to treat the wastes as previous contributors have suggusted, then you might consider solar evaporation to concentrate the wastes to reduce hauling costs to a proper treatment facility.

To oxidize these wastes will require some sort of driving force to activate the chemicals such as peroxide, ozone, or oxygen. I would believe that this type of waste could be treated in a municipal treatment plant and I'm suprized that you haven't contacted one to determine the treatability of your waste.

Sincerely, grrun   Shocked

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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2005, 2:13pm
 
Christophe,
                You haven't given any guidance on the quantity of this material you need to treat or the timespan for treatment. If time is not of the essence it should be possible to set up a simple batch treatment process to deal with this material. This would involve biological treatment and if this is of interest I would be happy to discuss in more detail.

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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2005, 2:16am
 
Dear Woefie,

I think Ozone could be a suitable solution for this project (we have done similar treatment in tanks). You should send us as much information as possible and we would let you know what solution, according to us, would be the most adapted to this type of waste.

For more information, visit our website: http://www.paradisenw.com.

Or contact us: denwil@gorge.net

Best Regards,

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The solution is MBR . For more information please contact
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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2005, 2:48am
 
( but there are no treatment facilities in the Middle East (yet).
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Please, if you are from Qatar You will find specialists to do proper analysis on your wastewater and they will find the best way to tackle the problem. it dose not seem to be a difficult one.  you just do not know how to explained the problem.
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Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2005, 3:37am
 
Good Evening Christphe-
As Orenda noted, if the primary carboxylic acids are oxidizable, the oil and grease residual proves no problem - then electrolytic treatment may be the simplest and cheapest issue for treating in 1000l batches. Peroxide can be hazardous to handle and store - it is extremely caustic -eating through metal and concrete as the solutions are normally 35-50% solutions. Ozone is impractical in a working environment where dust and dirt can clog air intiake filters rapidly, and the main labor force is untrained. Perozone - the use of ozone with peroxide injection is even more difficult and requires more labor and monitoring. Electrolytic process would not require trained help nor caustic chemical addition - maybe some enzyme concentrate to help oil/grease breakdown - but your talking small amount - like 2-3 ounces per 10,000 gallons of wastewater. Then it's a simple time and rotation of each 1000l as a batch.

I agree that a more indepth analysis of the water is required - and that should be provided to any of the parties you respond to here.

Biological action may be required - again, depends on the oxidation potential of the carboxylic acid - if so, then you would want a small, highly aerobic system - much like Honeywell-Xceeds ICB with pretreatment by electrolytic oxidation. Both ECP International and Honeywell-Xceed can address the issue with you directly. If you need a contact at Honeywell -just let me know - though ECP International does joint-applications with them.

A simple bench/lab test will determine if the acid is oxidizable - just  add a small amount of 25% hydrogen peroxide to a beaker of the wastewater - if the COD drops - it's oxidizable. Does not mean you have to reach COD of "0" mg/l - and probably won't - it's just a simple test to determine the reaction. Then you'll have a better handle on which way to proceed -

It would also help if you can provide how/where the treated wastewater would be discharged - ground/river/municipal sewage, etc.

Regards,
Dave Orlebeke
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Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2005, 5:14am
 
Dear Christophe,

Im sorry to have to correct Aquaticonsult. Though, he is correct in stating that 'peroxide is hazardous to handle and store' hydrogen peroxide is a weak acid with strongly oxidizing properties - not 'extremely caustic'. The chemical supplier will deliver it in a form safe to store!.
It might well be that ozonation will require skilled manpower, however, automatic process control is also available.

If I understand your situation right 10 - 20 % carboxylic acids means soaps mostly. (Deduced from the statement 'applications to solve complex industrial cleaning problems (using environmental friendly aqueous based advanced chemical products)').

In this case the bulk of contaminants should be precipitated by addition of lime. pH adjustment to neutral or slightly acidic might be  a second choice.

Kind regards
T. Sobisch
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