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More Foaming Issues...
Mar 15th, 2010, 4:56pm
 
Our Effluent is crap, settleability by the numbers is "ok" but there are floating puffballs of solids, we are seeing low DO/F:M filaments...

WWTP Stats:
~ Average of 1.5 MGD entering the plant
~ Extended aeration, 1.1 MG capacity in aeration basin B, .64 in aeration basin A.  Three clarifiers of capacities .154, .178 & .224 MG.  ~ Influent TSS 350-450 mg/L, COD 550 mg/L
~ MLSS from both basins are hovering around 2000 mg/L.
~ 5 min settling is around 400, 30 min is 200, 60 min is 160.
~ SVI 82-100, WCR 550-700
~ Effluent TSS 25 mg/L, COD 65 mg/L
~ MCRT is currently at 14 Days
~ thick foam on both basins, ranging from dark brown to whitish brown.
~ Seeing white foam constantly from one main line entering the WWTP
~ Still working with the cycling of our new aeration system (3 turbo blowers, two aeration basins, ONE air line...)

Microscope Info:
~ can see oil in the whitish foam samples from one of the basins
~ Maybe possible start of problem with Nocardia, but will check the scope again tomorrow...

There are those that say we cannot find the source of the "white foam" entering the facility, though I think it's more accurate to say, we don't know what and how to TEST for whatever may be the cause of the problem (foam or not)...

Is it possible to see a high COD or TPH or visual foam at the plant but not see the same results closer to the source because of other "additives" to the contaminant? I'm not a chemist so I really don't know  Huh ?

Ideas? Comments?
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Reply #1 - Mar 15th, 2010, 9:45pm
 
Brianna:

The white foaming that you may be seeing may be due to surfactants.  If the foaming is due to biological/microbiological issues then you should see the culprit filamentous bacteria present in higher concentrations in the foam (Nocardioforms and Microthrix can be easily identified using a Gram stain).  Your SVI looks good
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Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2010, 10:45am
 
Oh goodie... surfactants...  Angry

Although we're waiting for other process configurations to stabilize, we will probably increase our MCRT, in the past heavier LBS in the plant has greatly reduced the negative effects of surfactants.

Has anyone been able to track down the culprit (assuming there is ONE or TWO...) via what tests? Visually we do NOT see any foam or oil sheen above our location.

The foam we see is from one specific line, this line comes down to our plant by a sharp grade downhill and is churned up quite a bit just as it reaches us.  The manhole before the drop, we never see anything like foam or an oil sheen...

Oh, and I've started a similar thread in the Treatment forum  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Mar 17th, 2010, 7:38am
 
You need to sample and analyze for MBAS and CTAS surfactants to find out if these are present and which one/s.  If you have a list of known users of surfactants which discharge into your collection system then you can go visit and try to determine if they have been dumping surfactants down the drains.  

Since you have determined which collection line is delivering this "stuff" to your plant why not figure out which locations along that line are possible sources of surfactants?  

Increasing applied air rates can aid in dispersing foam from surfactants.  We are able to do this in our equalization basin and our pre-air tank leading into our primary basins.  Best approach is to find the sources and eliminate them.  Good luck!   Undecided

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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2010, 4:04pm
 
Filamentous growth isn't a problem now, they're present, but not to levels that are alarming...yet...

We've tested for surfactants in the past and get highly mixed results... I've also heard that wastewater isn't easy to test because of the nature of the waste... and frankly my boss is sick of hearing about "surfactants"... makes it difficult to propose more testing... but will relay the message! Cheesy

We've increased our MCRT to 17 days, trying to increase our mass to handle the surf. loading... for now... and also checking for filaments daily.

So how would your sampling plan look? Grabs, Composite? There's not a lot of industry around here (on that line)... making us think it's possibly homeowners?  Undecided
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Reply #5 - Mar 18th, 2010, 9:17pm
 
Brianna:

Took a look at your Blog about your current situation.  Nice site.  What are you using to take a look at the filaments?  Phase contrast scope?  You have not told us whether you've done a Gram stain.  If you want, I can do a free micro exam as a professional courtesy.  All you have to do is mail me 10 mL of your ML and some of the foam.  PM me if you decide to do it.
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Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2010, 8:28am
 
Wastewater is a pain to test for surfactants.  Oftentimes there is some sort of interphase layer that appears during the extraction that is diffucult to properly decide where it goes.  I would guess that you have someone who has plumbed there dishwasher or clotheswasher drain to where it goes straight into the stream.  I think surfactants have to be done on a grab.  The holding time for them is only 48 hours.
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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2010, 10:50am
 
Victor,
We did a Gram stain, no G+ (a couple days ago), I'll run another one on the foam today. I'll post pics to the blog site 
Although now the foam has reduced by half as of this morning, I'll go look and take a few more pics.
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David,
I knew I remembered hearing somewhere that ww is a pain to test for surf.   Undecided Oh well... hmmm...

I think, just for background info, we'll try to grab a few samples when we see the white foam at headworks, as well as a couple samples from the other main lines.
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