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I am new to waste water treatment. I own a small herbal extract manufacturing unit. We need to treat 15000 L of botanical aqueous extract every day. I tried the following expt
waste water (light green) > pH adjustment with NaOH to 9-10 > the color became dark brown > added ferric chloride and sludge separated out > filtered > the color of filtrate is still dark brown.
In fact the color of starting waste water was much lighter than the processed water.
I feel there is some pH relationship with color but dont know how to handle. Pl help!
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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2012, 9:04am
 
Two issues - one could be tannins - which NaOH won't bleach and would require at leat UF to remove. Second, is filtration may not go down to sufficnet particle size - again, UF may be necessary to grab the insoluble oxidized precipitates.
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Reply #2 - May 15th, 2012, 9:18am
 
I just passed the effluent through a bed of celite. The solution became clear but surprisingly the color of eluant changed very dark. Maybe the celite caused some change in pH thereby having an influene on the color.  Quite unusual as I always thought celite is very inert. Will check the in and out pH tomorrow.
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2012, 6:12am
 
Try bringing pH to between 6 and 7 and tell us what happens to color?

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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2012, 6:26am
 
Ok will check and inform.
Further checked out some more parameters of starting effluent - COD is 28,000 ppm, TDS is 1.5 %, pH of effluent is 5.
Can this effluent be treated only by coagulation / flocculation or biological treatment required after coagulation / floculation.
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2012, 12:45pm
 
My guess is that a COD of 28,000 mg/L and a TDS of 15,000 mg/L will, at least, require some biological treatment. A simple fill and draw (simulating an SBR) test in the laboratory may provide the necessary information for system design. If you have no experience with biological treatment, I would recommend that you hire a consultant that does have experience. I don't think that physical-chemical treatment alone will provide the economical removal of contaminants without some sort of biological treatment.

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Reply #6 - May 17th, 2012, 4:11am
 
The objective of wastewater treatment is usually to clean from the wastewater enough solids to let the rest to be released to a getting water without disrupting its best or appropriate use.
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Reply #7 - May 17th, 2012, 4:25am
 
If you are dealing with water from a "herbal extract manufacturing unit" and the volume is only 15,000 l per day, have you considered land application of the wastewater without any chemical addition.
A relatively low application rate could be used to minimise risks to groundwater reserves, and the application rate can be designed to ensure that the nutrients carried in the effluent do not exceed the nutrient requirements of the cover crop on the application lands. In this way the nutrients in the effluent could be recovered for more plant growth.
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Reply #8 - May 17th, 2012, 4:26am
 
If I can process the waste water and bring down the level of COD of say 2500 ppm, will it be safe to use it in my garden? Of course, it would depend on what is the type of chemical which is being reflected in the  COD, but considering that all these chemicals have come from natural source (primarily herbs), will 2500 ppm be ok? I am sure that when we add fertilizers in the garden, the COD would be quite high but these are all because of nutrients which are good for the plants. Is there some way to find whether the 2500 ppm water has nutrients which would promote the growth of plants?
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Reply #9 - May 17th, 2012, 4:33am
 
Hi Tom< i did try land filling - the plants did not wither, however, the plants where the water got collected started withering. I thought its  probably because of over concentration of nutrients. Is there some way to check it the nutrients in 15000 L are good?
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Reply #10 - May 17th, 2012, 5:03am
 
You need to analyse the effluent for pH, Chemical Oxygen Demand, Biochemical Oxygen Demand, Nitrogen & Phosphorous, then establish the nutrient requirements for the crop growing on the land where the effluent is to be applied, so that you can calculate an acceptable application rate.
This is not a "landfilling" operation, it is a nutrient recovery process, with benefits also being achieved from the water.  
If the plants have withered there is something wrong with the effluent or with the application rates.
If the effluent is biodegradable and non-hazardous, and if the pH is not too high or too low, and if the nutrient addition rates are properly calculated I would expect the plants to flourish, not to wither.
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Reply #11 - May 17th, 2012, 5:48am
 
The fact that mild application of the waste water allowed the plants to flourish and the high concentration made the plants wither would mean that the application is very important - exactly your advise. I also appreciate your thought that in a way, the garden is working as an effluent treatment plant where it is consuming the waste water at the same time flourishing. However, I would really like to know that this effluent is not toxic and somehow feel COD / BOD could not be the only parameter. Even if the COD is 28000 ppm, it may mean that the water is full of nutrients and is actually doing good for the plants. I would like to understand I am not polluting the enviornment.
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Reply #12 - May 17th, 2012, 10:09am
 
I would check the discharge for the common nutrients such as P and N before concluding that the COD is composed of these nutrients. Usually, the PO4, NH3 and NO3 nutrients will not affect COD. TOC analyses may also be informative.

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Reply #13 - May 17th, 2012, 10:39am
 
Hi grrun, would this mean that if the TOC is low, the water is safe for gardening?
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Reply #14 - May 17th, 2012, 10:41am
 
Suppose there is chlorophyll content in my waste water is high, it should be good for the garden, but this would translate into a high TOC. How should I interpret this?
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Reply #15 - May 17th, 2012, 3:06pm
 
You've already established that the water is not completely safe for application, but a lower concentration seems acceptable. However, repeated applications may cause the same problems as application of the concentrated water. I'd be extremely careful of this practice. The only analogy that comes to mind is the problem of accumulation of Se in Colorado River water from so many applications of irrigation

I think that TOC and BOD analysis will indicate how biodegradable the wastewater is. You may be introducing refractory organics into the wastewater in washing and cleaning (which will show up in the TOC) so I would run BOD10, and BOD20 as well as BOD5. I'm afraid that recycling will eventually contaminate the soil; reducing yields and causing other problems.

I realize that you have been focused on color changes, but BOD tests may affect color changes. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth.

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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2012, 4:59pm
 
This is an aqueous botanical herbal extract process. This I understand to mean that water is being used to extract water soluble materials from plants/herbs.
I believe therefore that it is most unlikely that water from this process will be hazardous.
Application of water containing high TOC or high COD would NOT be expected to cause plants to wither. However if the plants are
overwateted, or if excessive nutrients, (particularly Nitrogen), is applied, then withering may occur.
Of course if the water contains some hazardous materials, or is at an unusually high, or unusually high, pH, then withering may also occur.
The practice of land application of huh strength waste waters or flurries is common throughout the world, and is regularly used on farms, and at many food processing plants, (like this case).
So in this case you need to establish that the pH of thi water is acceptable, that the water is not hazardous, or does not contain any hazardous substances, then measure nitrogen & phosphorous content of the water. Review the results, prepare a suitable Nutrient Management Plan, which will guide you through the correct application rates.
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Reply #17 - May 17th, 2012, 5:20pm
 
I don't entirely disagree with Tom. There are natural bacteria in the soil that are able to process organics and nutrients and I may have been overly cautious. I hope that you will monitor the application closely.

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Reply #18 - May 17th, 2012, 8:38pm
 
Thanks all. I think it may be difficult to actually monitor / control direct land application as the person usually doing such works would be unskilled and I have a beautiful garden which I cannot risk. Tell me if this alternative sounds good - I treat the water to reduce sludge and the COD is brought down to say 3000 - 3500 ppm but is slightly coloured. The limit for discharge is 250 ppm COD but I keep a higher limit since the water prima facie should have nutrients. In the mean time, I get the water analysed for BOD, TOC, N, P which would help us understand the long term application problems.
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Reply #19 - May 17th, 2012, 8:51pm
 
The process by which I am able to reduce COD to about 3000 ppm is repeated coagulation and flocculation ( repeated 3-4 times)followed by hypochlorite dosing, charcoal and sand filtration. The repetition of coagulation and floculation is by adjusting ph and using alum each time. When I use ferric chloride, it is imparting a color to the water. I was planning to try different poly electrolytes today, the primary aim being one step removal of sludge. 15000 l would contain about 200 kg solids. If I am able to remove sludge and bring down the COD to abt 3000 ppm with slight color and odor, would you consider the water safe for gardening? Do you think it may be possible to avoid repetition of alum treatment and replace it by single treatment with poly electrolytes?
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Reply #20 - May 18th, 2012, 4:40am
 
Hi Navin,
Firstly it is not difficult to control land application of "organic" wastes such as you have. Once you know the make up of the water, the crop growing in the land onto which the water is to be applied, and the phosphorous content of the soil on the lands, it is relatively easy.
I would be pleased to help you if you could send me the information.

Secondly it seems a shame that you start adding chemicals to a water that currently appears only to contain organic substances. If you do not wish to use the soil as a biological treatment plant, (while also recovering valuable nutrients), then you should consider a convention biological treatment plant not requiring chemical addition.

Where is the discharge currently going?
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Reply #21 - May 18th, 2012, 10:41am
 
Hi Tom, thanks for ur help and I would be very grateful if you could help me out with the calculations. Please advise what data you need and I will get the water and soil analysed accordingly.
I am currently treating the water with alum and caustic and getting down the cod to 3000 ppm and spraying on baren piece of land within my factory premises.
The barren piece of land where I am spraying this water is becoming green with grass even though this piece of land is very barren and infertile. Infact I had to buy soil For my garden as the natural strata is very barren.

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Reply #22 - May 18th, 2012, 11:24am
 
Hi Tom, just to add, it's been about 2 weeks that we started this product, so I am not sure about the long term effect of this spraying.
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navin wrote on May 18th, 2012, 10:41am:
Hi Tom, thanks for ur help and I would be very grateful if you could help me out with the calculations. Please advise what data you need and I will get the water and soil analysed accordingly.
I am currently treating the water with alum and caustic and getting down the cod to 3000 ppm and spraying on baren piece of land within my factory premises.
The barren piece of land where I am spraying this water is becoming green with grass even though this piece of land is very barren and infertile. Infact I had to buy soil For my garden as the natural strata is very barren.


How much land is available for irrigation?  The daily volume of waste produced is about 4,000 US gallons/day.

How many days per week or month is the waste produced?
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Reply #24 - May 18th, 2012, 11:31pm
 
I have about 4000 sq m barren space and about 4000 sq m garden area.
Waste water generation is 6 days / week @ 15000 L / day and about 6 months in a year.
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Reply #25 - May 19th, 2012, 12:36am
 
I have about 4000 sq m barren space and about 4000 sq m garden area.
Waste water generation is 6 days / week @ 15000 L / day and about 6 months in a year.
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Reply #26 - May 19th, 2012, 6:59am
 
Tom is right ..
Tom Keenan - nesa wrote on May 18th, 2012, 4:40am:
Hi Navin,
Firstly it is not difficult to control land application of "organic" wastes such as you have. Once you know the make up of the water, the crop growing in the land onto which the water is to be applied, and the phosphorous content of the soil on the lands, it is relatively easy.
I would be pleased to help you if you could send me the information.

Secondly it seems a shame that you start adding chemicals to a water that currently appears only to contain organic substances. If you do not wish to use the soil as a biological treatment plant, (while also recovering valuable nutrients), then you should consider a convention biological treatment plant not requiring chemical addition.

Where is the discharge currently going?


Why use any chemicals such as alum .. just adjust the pH for your plants.  You would be adding 1.9 L per sq meter.  I don't think that is a lot of liquid.  what would buildup is the nutrients in the soil.  You may need a heavy nutrient uptake plant like corn.   You also may need to increase the size of available land just to avoid nutrient buildup.  Also I would not spray on the plants .. A subsurface injection would be better.

Do it right like Tom has indicated and when you garden does well, try and sell the extra liquid to you neighbors.
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Reply #27 - May 19th, 2012, 7:46am
 
The pH of 15,000 L water is 4.2. When I adjust the pH to 7, the color of the solution becomes bark brown from light green. Adjusting the pH would thus be a disadvantage. I am seeing healthy growth of grass where ever I spray this water (without adjusting pH). Pl suggest.
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Reply #28 - May 19th, 2012, 8:57am
 
It will be sometime next week .. have to ask agricultural extension service people.  Sat and Sunday is their day off.

Not sure why you worry about the color .. Soil bacteria are color blind.  Just concerned about the low pH for vegetables and root crops.

Also can you give the general range of air temperature during the 6 months.
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Reply #29 - May 19th, 2012, 10:15am
 
The pollution control people will create a problem if the water is coloured.

The temp is 35 C + for abt 6 months, it drizzles for 3 months and for 3 months the temp is 20 to 30 C.

The pollution control dept have a limit of 250 ppm COD,; is there some way to prove we are not polluting when we use the water directly.
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