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Jun 27th, 2012, 8:41am
 
Can anyone give me a rundown of Mesophillic and thermophillic digestion?  I have a Mesophillic municipal digester and a second for settling.  Can I just turn up the heat to get thermophillic, in an attempt for better reductions to a final goal of class A sludge?  is it that simple? Where do I find this literature or resource?
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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2012, 8:52am
 
The mesophilic range is 85-100 degrees F and the thermophilic range is 120-135 degrees F.

As you go pass through the mesophilic you'll probably loose your methane producers so I don't think this would work. Also changes in temperature need to be made very slowly, a degree a day or so or else you'll upset the digester.

Likely you'd have to start from scratch. Mixing is very important in these processes too, without enough mixing for a higher-rate you'll run into problems. I'd contact the manufacturer and get their take on it.
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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2012, 8:53am
 
here's a link for you

http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/science/opcert/doc/Anaerobic_adv.pdf

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Reply #3 - Jun 27th, 2012, 12:53pm
 
I have read a few things, so maybe I don't get the jist of the whole kit and kabootle.  I read you get better reductions and beter quality and quantity of methane.  Farms fo thermo first and then meseo last.  I really don't get that scenario.  So still my question is why not straight to thermo.......I understand if it was easy everyone would go to that range.....
I have jet mixing, I feed 24/7 by timer.  I have 4-6% feed sludge(municipal).
Reason i ask is I am into looking at composting.  What I am reading is if I can go thermo I can skip the composting operation and be class A right out of the digester to my drying bed.......Hmmmmm

Makes one think......
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Reply #4 - Jul 4th, 2012, 1:56am
 
What results did you got after trying this? Did it works?
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Reply #5 - Jul 4th, 2012, 6:25am
 
This was my point of asking the question, I want to try it.  But I am looking for anyone with more experience than me to give their opinion.  I am no biologist, just an operator with too much information. LOL
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Reply #6 - Jul 4th, 2012, 7:06am
 
how you are going to increase the temperature of effluent? what is inlet effluent temperature. thermophilic range you required reactor operating temp more than 48 C, to maintain thermophillic  temp without using any additional energy you required inlet temprature more than 50.
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Reply #7 - Jul 6th, 2012, 9:51am
 
From a microbial perspective, the conversion of a mesophilic digester (35C) to thermophilic digester (55C) would require a more gradual increase in temperature over time to prevent upsets in microbial community in the digester particularly the methanogens.  Thermophilic digesters are more efficient but lack the stability of mesophilic digesters.  Also note, because of increased hydrolysis and methane production under thermophilic conditions, operating parameters such as retention time will need to be adjusted.      
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