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help why  TOC more than COD
Jul 08th, 2012, 11:25pm
 
Hello every body I am chemistry Technician working in environmental lab please I need your help to explain this case  for me when I analyze one of the industrial wastwater  for TOC and COD the TOC result is higher than COD please can you tell me why this is happen
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Reply #1 - Jul 9th, 2012, 7:53am
 
You will need to give us a little bit more information. What values are you getting for you COD and TOC? How about your BOD values? Do you have information on the halides present in the sample? What method are you using to determine COD and TOC? What are the other physical characteristics of the sample, i.e. color, chunks, etc.?
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Reply #2 - Jul 9th, 2012, 11:04pm
 
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I think it is beacause :in dichromate oxidation, you can not measurement aromatic carbon like benzene, toluene and etc. but in TOC measurement you can measure this type of organic carbon
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2012, 2:04am
 
David S. wrote on Jul 9th, 2012, 7:53am:
You will need to give us a little bit more information. What values are you getting for you COD and TOC? How about your BOD values? Do you have information on the halides present in the sample? What method are you using to determine COD and TOC? What are the other physical characteristics of the sample, i.e. color, chunks, etc.?



the Values for COD is 400 mg/L and for TOC is 700 mg/L

we didn't measure BOD or halides

the method for COD by Closed Reflux, Titrimetric Method

for TOC I am using SKALAR TOC analyzer

physical characteristics of the sample

color is gray

TSS is high


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Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2012, 8:14am
 
The first thing I notice is that the reported COD value is right at the upper end of the detection limit for your method. Is that value from a diluted sample or was it run straight? If we presume your TOC value to be correct I would expect a COD in the 1500-2000 mg/L range. Try a 5x dilution on your sample.

I believe the Skalar TOC unit is a high temperature combustion. If so, most of the interferences and limitations are of the same nature and behave in the same way as with TOC. The only big exception would be NOx compounds. But, I don't think we are necessarily dealing with an interference issue. I presume your blanks and standards are reading well, so we will have to presume that the instrument itself is operating properly. Does your instrument do an inorganic carbon purge before analyzing or do you do that manually prior to loading the sample? Have you verified that the acid used to remove the inorganic carbon is of sufficient strength and is still good? If you have high carbonate/bicarbonate contributions you may still be seeing residual inorganic contributions when you do your TOC reading.
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Re: help why  TOC more than COD
Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2012, 1:30am
 
Hi
Titremetric method is not well known as compared to colorimetric method. If you can not arrange the spectrophotometer then dilute your sample and perform method as per your daily routine.
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