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Turbidity and COD increased overnight
Mar 02nd, 2013, 1:27am
 
Hi all,

I'm Anas from Kai Sik Towa, Malaysia. I operate wastewater treatment plant for our factory. We use coagulation and flocculation process to treat our wastewater. I would like to ask, what if the possible cause that makes turbidity and COD of the water inside our clarifier increased overnight? We only operate during the day.
Is it caused by BOD/COD exerted by sludge inside the clarifier? We manufacture rubber gloves, so our sludge is biodegradable in nature. But we don't have any biological process in our wastewater treatment plant.

I appreciate any opinion and positive feedback in this matter.
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Reply #1 - Mar 2nd, 2013, 1:44am
 
Dear Anas,

Please send me the process P&ID of your system.

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Reply #2 - Mar 2nd, 2013, 1:30pm
 
I would first check the concentration of the chemicals added to your clarifier. Secondly, I would check the output of the chemical addition pumps in the system. Finally, I would check with the manufacturing plant to see if they had any change in operations.

I would also run jar tests to determine the effectiveness of the chemical additions.

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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2013, 11:56pm
 
Thanks for prompt reply. here is our P&ID:
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I've done usual troubleshooting steps to identify the problem, i.e dosing pump calibration, chemical stock concentration, and jar test. Every process parameters is in acceptable range.  what puzzles me is that our effluent turbidity is very low (clear water) during plant operation and only increased if left stagnant overnight(cloudy water). I suspect it is caused by sludge inside the clarifier, but I would like to get second opinion on this matter.
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Reply #4 - Mar 4th, 2013, 12:58am
 
How much has the COD increased? Do you have flow measuring equipment on your influent (are you sure that there's no flow during the night)? Is there a change in pH in the clarifier overnight? Will additional PAC and polymer clear up the water that set overnight in the clarifier?

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Reply #5 - Mar 4th, 2013, 1:27am
 
Dear Muhamad Anas,

only a guess, maybe the stagnant sludge gets anaerobic or biology starts to work another way.
Would assume that when you restart to operate after night every thing gets to normal?

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Re: Turbidity and COD increased overnight
Reply #6 - Mar 4th, 2013, 5:05am
 
Hi Muhamad
It seems to me that there are three main aspects that should be given priority consideration, (separately and in combination), to help identify the cause of this problem:
1) Operation of the coagulant and/or flocculant addition to ensure that both of these are optimised.
2). Operation of the Clarifier to ensure that the hydraulic loading rate, (rather than just retention time), is optimised to prevent any carryout of solids in the discharge.
3). Operation of the sludge removal system from the clarifier to ensure that the sludge is not floating, or being disturbed during settling.
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Reply #7 - Mar 4th, 2013, 11:49pm
 
To sobisch,

Yes, condition return to normal gradually as we restart the operation.

To grrunn,

COD before shutdown is around 110 - 130 mg/l and overnight it increased to around 330 - 350 mg/l. I absolutely sure there in no flow during the night since the whole plant is shut down and there is no significant change in pH either.
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Reply #8 - Mar 5th, 2013, 3:23pm
 
You have eliminated most of the conditions that I had considered as possibilities. I would do one more thing to confirm your hypothesis. Place in a beaker about 20% of the bottom sludge and 80% of the clarifier discharge and let it set overnight. If your hypothesis is correct, then you should be able to observe in the beaker the same sort of conditions that are occurring in your clarifier. You can check the supernatant COD in the beaker and see if it's increased from the previous days discharge. Also, you can determine if the supernatant has increased turbidity. This is one way to confirm your hypothesis. If it is correct, I would consider chlorinating the clarifier at the end of each day.

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